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Yes I have tried other Chromium based browsers, such as Chrome, Edge, but still same problem. However I have not tried - admittedly, Firefox, so I'll try that next. But even if it does work with Firefox, what about the majority of Internet users that use Chromium based browsers? What then?
I could try Weebly again, but then I would have to pay for another year's hosting on top of what I've just paid for a few weeks ago. |
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I'm only suggesting that you try other browsers to see if the problem is the same as I've had. Not as a long-term solution, for sure.
Last I looked on Weebly you can have a free website. You only have to pay if you want some of the advanced features, like multiple editors. But using Weebly might be another test. If it works on Weebly then the problem may not be with Nabble. I spent several hundred dollars trying to get Nabble to run on an AWS server and be embedded on Weebly. And an ex-Nabble person could not get that last little bit to work. You could NOT log on to the embedded forum with many browsers but could with others. We were SO CLOSE but could not quite cross the goal line. Apparently there is just something about the way some hosts serve the forum up that doesn't work. Some little bit that isn't quite right. I think that someone that is really well versed in how all of this works could fix it. But I don't know who that person is. And since running Nabble on Franklin's server has a short-term future I gave up and found a new forum platform - Invision. It is a commercial platform with support and it has many features that Nabble doesn't have. (I'm not taking shots at Nabble. I REALLY appreciate the free service I've had for the last seven years. And Franklin would be the first to say that Nabble isn't everything he wanted it to be.) The guy doing the coding for the migration of all of our Nabble forum said yesterday that he has it working to his satisfaction and we will start testing it this week. If all goes well we will migrate in another week or two. But it isn't free. As said, our migration will be $2000 and the ongoing monthly fee is $55. But my members have stepped up and are paying the costs.
I'm not Nabble support, but have Nabble running on my Weebly website: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/
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Sorry for late reply and thanks again for helping. Just tried one of my Weebly sites and the forum embeds just fine, but I still could not login to it. I'm now thinking it's something to do with the people hosting my website. Great by the way that your forum's working and that members are paying something.
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If your forum cannot be logged into when it is embedded on Weebly nor on your other website then I don't think it is the people hosting your other website. That is, assuming you turned https on on Weebly. And, can you log onto your forum on Weebly with Firefox?
As for my forum, as of a week ago tomorrow the folks at InVision have converted my 7Gb Nabble forum and put it up for us to test. It works very nicely but there were some small glitches, which they say they've corrected. So we will be moving soon. And for a comparison, we have one thread that has almost 9000 replies. On Nabble it takes 16 - 17 seconds to load. On InVision it takes 1 - 2 seconds to load. And another thread that is very heavy with pictures and embedded files takes ~2 seconds on InVision and 20 seconds on Nabble. (Nb: That probably has to do with how many resources Nabble has put toward hosting the forum rather than the coding itself.)
I'm not Nabble support, but have Nabble running on my Weebly website: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/
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Thanks again. You're absolutely right of course, that the people hosting my other site (talk-it.net) wouldn't effect the Weebly site - silly me.
As a further test, I included the embedding code in a page for yet another site hosted elsewhere, and again the forum loaded ok, but I still couldn't login. So, I've now tested it on a Weebly hosted site and two other sites under different hosts, plus I've tried Opera, Edge and Chrome browsers, and I still cannot login via the site it's embedded in - only via a direct link to the forum, so Nabble hosted. Invision sounds very good. |
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Right, I've just tried the only thing that I haven't done until now, which is to try it with Firefox - and I was able to login! So partial success! I say partial success, because most Internet user use Chromium based browsers. Ideally I want registered users to be able to login whatever browser they're using, so still a bit to do. |
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You are seeing exactly what I saw when we tried to run Nabble on an AWS server. After bunches of money getting there we never did get it working.
From what I've read Firefox treats security differently than Chrome does. I can't point you to an article on that now, but I read that they do things differently. And something in your setup appears to be running afoul of things in Chrome. Having said that, there is a chance that you have something not quite right in your settings for CNAMES, etc. And there I am lost. All I do is what other people tell me to do. So my suggestion is that if you aren't au fait in that area then get with someone who is to work through all of the domain settings. I've seen those settings trip things up.
I'm not Nabble support, but have Nabble running on my Weebly website: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/
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This post was updated on Aug 27, 2024; 8:59am.
Yes, I recall you mentioning the AWS issue in a previous thread. As to something in my setup causing issues with Chrome browsers, I have no idea what this could be. The people hosting my site (that the forum is embedded in) can't find anything amiss server side. They even suggested that I rename or remove the htaccess file, well I did both and neither solved the login problem. Concerning my CNAME settings, what should I be looking for? My CNAME setup for anything relevant is as follows: Name Record www.talk-it.net talk-it.net forum.talk-it.net. s1.nabble.com --- By the way, the support forum has been flooded with spam. |
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The fact that it now works with Firefox is something, but most Internet users have Chromium based browsers, so something still needs to be fixed, but what? You say that I might have to change my CNAME, etc, records, but what exactly? Current zone records Name: talk-it.net. Type: A Value: 192.250.234.53 Name: talk-it.net Type: MX Value: Priority: 0 Destination: talk-it.net Name: www.talk-it.net. Type: CNAME Value: talk-it.net Name: talk-it.net. Type: TXT Value: v=spf1 +a +mx +ip4:192.250.234.53 include:spf.mysecurecloudhost.com ~all Name: forum.talk-it.net. Type: CNAME Value: s1.nabble.com |
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Sorry, but all of that is way over my head. Maybe Greg can help you? I'll send him an email in case he isn't reading this.
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No, I can't offer any better advice.
Unlike Gary I haven't suffered such problem so I lack experience. All I can say is that you've tried all that I would have done. As I said in an off-forum exchange, with Gary, and at the risk of displaying "negative waves", a private joke, the best advice I could offer is contained in my signature.
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Here it is again, 6:53 AM and you are hitting me with such negative waves, Moriarty.
But I agree with Greg - move. I started my forum almost exactly 7 years ago and it has grown beyond expectations. But the writing is on the wall, Nabble will some day shut down. So if it were today I'd not be investing any time nor energy in a new Nabble forum. If you have too much invested in what you've done on Nabble then consider hiring someone to port it elsewhere. I paid InVision $2050 to do the work and it looks like we will move the week of 15th September. So if they already have a Nabble converter routine then maybe it wouldn't cost you so much. I don't know. But there are other services that will move you to other platforms, although I didn't find many others to move from Nabble.
I'm not Nabble support, but have Nabble running on my Weebly website: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/
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Yep, I could move the forum to another platform but it would have to be very low cost if not free, because I've already paid a years hosting for the site it's embedded in. I've heard of Simple Machines Forum (SMF) that's free to install, but don't know if it has embedding options. |
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Well my forum is still very new and not earning enough yet to justify a $2050 outlay. I'm curious however as to what InVision includes for that price. |
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I don't know that they would charge you the same as me. Since I'm the first Nabble forum to be converted they had to write the conversion routine. Now they have it.
And they are moving everything. All posts, all pictures, everything. The only minor issue is that the sub-forums don't come over in exactly the same order, so some small dragging & dropping is needed. Very easy. The monthly fee is $54 to run on their cloud service.
I'm not Nabble support, but have Nabble running on my Weebly website: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/
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Oh yes, one other thing to try is to clear the cache on Chrome. That might help.
I'm not Nabble support, but have Nabble running on my Weebly website: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/
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SMF was on my short list of forum software to try.
It does not offer the simple kind of embedding function that Nabble provides. However, if you have HTML and CSS skills you are free to edit any of its themes to suit your own site. I tried SMF first after trying the demos of a number of forum packages and I can't remember why I eventually rejected it. I suspect that the themes I tried as a starting point for what I wanted to achieve used Bootstrap, Smarty, or one of the other popular tools that are supposed to make achieving your end quicker, but, for me, it meant learning another tool before I could start, so I thought I'd try another to see if that didn't need learning something else first. Next I tried MyBB. I got on with that better. I got to the point where I began to built the site I wanted the forum to support. (I had just bought a 50 year old ex-hire boat on the Norfolk Broads and there wasn't a site that explored the history of the type, although there some 250 built) I got quite a long way. I did some minor changes to the colours of the forum but most of the work was making the beginnings of the site look like the default board. However, eventually I gave up on that as well. Again, I can't remember exactly what the issue was. I'm sure that it was very much my personal lack of knowledge that put me off these two packages rather than a problem with either of them. My skill set does not include JavaScript or PHP. Next I tried phpBB. I was slightly resistant to this package as I like things small and, of the three, this was the largest download by far. However, this is the package that I managed to adapt using only my HTML and CSS knowledge. My host has the Softaculous app installer package included and SMF and phpBB both have demos available you can play with before deciding to have the package install them. Softaculous not only installs the package but also sets up the required database as well. In other words it does all the heavy lifting needed to get the packages running. If you want to try the demos go to https://softaculous.com/apps/forums If you want to see how well I managed to "embed" phpBB in my site take a look at https://hamptonsafari.uk
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Sorry for late reply... So about $648 per year, which is far from exorbitant, but for myself would still be more than a consideration. |
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No, I agree that it doesn't seem to offer a simple embedding option and there's also a cost involved for any mod you want to apply to the basic forum, so could be fairly expensive.
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I use Opera as my main browser which is Chromium based and routinely clear my cookies and cache files after every browsing session, but still can't login with it, only with Firefox. |
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