Posts through Nabble: copies to list are missing quote levels

[Graham Perrin]

<http://n2.nabble.com/webcouturier.dropdownmenu-%2B-Plone-3.3b1-tp2521012p2530790.html> is fine.

<http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/setup/2009-March/004818.html> received by the list is missing the quote level.

Reviewing (without saving edits) my post, the quote tags are decently above and below the quoted text:

<quote author="Karl Johan Kleist">
Has anybody sucessfully used  webcouturier.dropdownmenu with Plone 3.3b1? Or even with 3.2?
</quote>

Yes, successfully with 3.2.1. 

PS: aiming to test 3.3 beta some time soon.

[Graham Perrin]

Two more examples, a different list:

<http://n2.nabble.com/Large-chandler-database-tp2435014p2530551.html> looks good,
<http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/chandler-users/2009-March/004037.html> looks bad.

<http://n2.nabble.com/iCal-3.0.6-%281273%29-talking-to-Chandler-Hub-every-two-seconds-tp2526341p2526341.html> looks good,
<http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/chandler-users/2009-March/004033.html> looks bad.

[Graham Perrin]

A long shot, is this bug a consequence of a fix for Nabble is pushing HTML through to text-only mailing lists?

[Graham Perrin]

Another example, a third list affected:

<http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/setup/2009-March/004818.html>

[Graham Perrin]

Another example, this list is the same one that was bugged by Nabble is pushing HTML through to text-only mailing lists:

<http://n2.nabble.com/PATCH%3A-Ticket--809-tp2526600p2531803.html> looks good,
<http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapguide-internals/2009-March/003441.html> looks bad.

[Graham Perrin]

Another bugged forum/list/archive, another bugged Nabble user:

<http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-HTML-filtering%2C-%3Cscript%3E-tag-tp2538032p2538559.html> looks good,
<https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=1238076301334-2538559.post%40n2.nabble.com> and
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user/97339> look bad.

Very confusing reading when we don't know who's writing what.

There's no way of correcting what's posted to list.

Please, can this one be prioritised?

Thanks :)

[Graham Perrin]

Trio of bugs still biting: images, quote levels and hyperlinks missing.

[Graham Perrin]

Still biting; quote in <http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/chandler-users/2009-March/004055.html> is without quotation marks.

[Graham Perrin]

Still bugged on 31st March; <http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/chandler-users/2009-March/004059.html> lacks the quote marks that were entered in <http://n2.nabble.com/How-do-i-make-Multi-Week-View-start-with-the-current-week--tt2561828.html#a2564799>.

[Graham Perrin]

Example of another bugged forum:

<https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=1238500007004-2562519.post%40n2.nabble.com> missing the quote marks that are present in  
<http://n2.nabble.com/bigip-slow-snmp-tp2538636p2562519.html>

[Graham Perrin]

@ Nabble

Hi, I realise that you're recently busy with improvements/new features but if you could prioritise this issue it will be greatly appreciated.

I suspect that we have two duplicate reports:

• Citation no longer respected if read as plain text (3rd April)
• Marking quoted text in e-mail (12th April)

— and this is one of those rare issues that leaves its mark indelibly, and ungracefully, on lists, so IMHO it deserves special attention.

Thanks in advance, and a belated Happy Easter :)

Graham

[danek]

I am the poster of one of the linked duplicate reports. This is a major problem -- did it always behave like this, or is this a regression?

Here are links to the Nabble and maling list versions one of my affected posts, for reference:

Nabble version: http://n2.nabble.com/No-GSM.-Suspect-dead-Calypso.-What-to-do--tp2614421p2620308.html
List version: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2009-April/005180.html

If you look at the thread, this is the same with any other post that has "Nabble-ized" quotes.

[Graham Perrin]

danek wrote

did it always behave like this, or is this a regression?

Not always. AFAICT the trio of bugs began biting on/around 24th or 25th March. See <http://n2.nabble.com/Posts-through-Nabble%3A-copies-to-list-are-missing-quote-levels-tp2531943p2531980.html>.

[danek]

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 06:06:22AM -0700, Graham Perrin (via Nabble) wrote:
> did it always behave like this, or is this a regression?
>
>
> Not always. AFAICT the trio of bugs began biting on/around 24th or 25th March. See <http://n2.nabble.com/Posts-through-Nabble%3A-copies-to-list-are-missing-quote-levels-tp2531943p2531980.html>.

As another example, the e-mail I just received from Nabble also exhibits
this problem, as seen above. (The right angle brackets are inserted by
my mailer; the first line should have another level of citation, but it
doesn't.)

[Will <Nabble>]

Thanks for reporting this.

This will be a high priority if the Nabble quote mangles up the email making an email hard to read. But it seems that only the other mail archives are having problem, right? In other words, the nabble post shows up ok in email client, right?

A Nabble post gets sent out as a multi-part email. I guess it must be that the mailing list archive software having problem parsing the multi-part email. So, we will look into, but it's not a high priority, because it only affects the archive, which isn't as urgent as messing up user's email.

[Graham Perrin]

Will <Nabble> wrote

nabble post shows up ok in email client, right?

Wrong ;)

The bug bites not only archives of lists, it also bites messages to everyday recipients.

<http://pastebin.ca/1392532> shows the result of <http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-support-fora-currently-bugged-by-issues-with-Nabble-tp2543362p2637376.html>.

Over to you, thanks …

[Graham Perrin]

Graham Perrin wrote

<http://pastebin.ca/1392532> shows the result of <http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-support-fora-currently-bugged-by-issues-with-Nabble-tp2543362p2637376.html>.

An Outlook Web Access view of the same message:


It appears that the words from Nabble were written by me (not by Nabble).

[Graham Perrin]

<http://pastebin.ca/1395015> shows the result of <http://n2.nabble.com/Internal-draft-visible-to-external-users.-tp2650069p2650966.html> and here's a screen shot from Thunderbird:



<http://pastebin.ca/1397115> shows the result of <http://n2.nabble.com/Dedicated-Plone-Host-Recommendation-tp2657704p2659430.html>.

[Graham Perrin]

Previous example was an address @lists.sourceforge.net

Now, an example @lists.plone.org

<http://pastebin.ca/1395031> shows the result of <http://n2.nabble.com/Redhat-Installation-tp2626166p2628470.html> and here's a screen shot from Mail:

[Graham Perrin]

<http://pastebin.ca/1395081> shows the result of <http://n2.nabble.com/archgenxml-error-tp2465005p2651732.html> and here are screen shots from Mulberry: