Embedded sites: Significant Bug in display of Terms and Conditions

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Embedded sites: Significant Bug in display of Terms and Conditions

GregChapman
Hi Pedro,

On an embedded site, when a new user clicks the "Register" link and then clicks the "Terms of Use" link the Terms page opens within the existing space allotted for the Nabble forum. There is no scrollbar. It is impossible to read the entire document. You cannot reach the "Return to Registration page" link at the bottom of the document. At the top of the screen, the "Nabble" link takes you to the Nabble home page - still embedded in the main page of the forum and that makes the only route back to the intended forum a refresh of the entire page.

A further question prompted by the discovery of this bug:

I am setting up a forum for a group whose members are likely to be fussy about reading Nabble's Terms and Conditions and disturbed by the idea that "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our servers, you give Nabble a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, communicate and publish such content.", which is one of the few things they can read.

While I suspect that this condition is more there to protect Nabble, should I fail to to check the "Redirect" option and a user be surprised to find a copy of yheir forum is accessible through Nabble's site, it will still seem a little intimidating to the forum's users, since this is a group that works for the UK's Court of Protection, Local Authorities and Legal firms and may be exchanging highly sensitive information about those unable to manage their own affairs which sometimes involves investigative work when complaints are made about those charged with managing the affairs of others by the courts.

The forum is embedded at:
http://www.aivuk.org.uk/members.html

What reassurance can I provide to users of this forum that Nabble will not wilfully "communicate and publish" any material posted by approved "Members" of the forum and posted in its private areas.
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Re: Embedded sites: Significant Bug in display of Terms and Conditions

Pedro <Nabble>
Thanks for reporting that. I'll fix it asap.
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GregChapman
Hi Pedro,

And can I expect a response from one of the team to the more general issue concerning rights to publish what could be legally protected data?

It may mean that I have to find an alternative host for the forum.
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Hugo <Nabble>
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GregChapman wrote
And can I expect a response from one of the team to the more general issue concerning rights to publish what could be legally protected data?
Hi Greg, let me try to explain this issue. If the information discussed in the forum is extremely sensitive, then hosting this anywhere could be a problem. If the administrator makes this forum private, then we won't expose the information to everyone by default. But we have to be protected for some reasons. For example, what if there is a bug that allows someone to sneak into the forum? (we are not aware of any bug like that, but it could exist somewhere / somehow). We may also have to deliver that information to an authority (e.g. police, FBI, etc.) if they formally request it. Those are very rare cases, but we do have to be protected.
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GregChapman
Thanks for that, Hugo.

From that response, I understand what you are saying is that Nabble will never intentionally publish or communicate the contents of forums set up as private. That was all that I was concerned about.

I fully recognise and accept that human error by Nabble staff is always possible, as is malicious attack on your servers, so you can never absolutely guarantee that material will not become available to those not intended to see it. I also recognise that any user must also accept the legislative environment in which Nabble operates and that may oblige Nabble to release data to state authorities or others.

Legal protection against those possibilities for forums intended to be private are entirely reasonable and I am happy to accept your reassurance that is the sole purpose of the clause in your Terms and Conditions.
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Hugo <Nabble>
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Greg, that's correct.

Nabble is also not responsible if a forum user leaks the information to another site. Or if the forum admin suddenly makes the forum public without notice. Everyone should trust everyone in a private forum.
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GregChapman
Thanks again, Hugo. You make another good point.
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