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Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Hugo <Nabble>
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Nabble1 is the old system from Nabble, which runs in http://old.nabble.com.
Nabble2 is the new system, which has a distributed architecture with several servers (like www, n2, n3 and n4).

New Nabble2 features are described in this page:
http://n2.nabble.com/Nabble-Latest-Features-f1559156.html

Nabble2 is faster and has less clutter. The main features are:
 - Better embedding;
 - built-in email subscriptions (you can post and reply by email);
 - Custom domain names (e.g., www.myforum.com)
 - Several interface options (forum, blog, news, gallery, etc.);
 - Privilege control on who can view and post messages (i.e., private forums)
 - Shared user accounts, as explained here.
 - Online/Offline indicator (per forum);
 - Stars to add/remove your favorite forums and posts;
 - Pin/Unpin topics (aka sticky topics);
 - Better user experience;
 - Spam control.

New features for Nabble2 are under development, such as:
 - Templates: will let you build the UI as you want and even create your own node-oriented system;
 - Custom sub-domains: you will be able to create a forum URL like myforum.nabble.com;
 - Social Networking;
 - Content management;
 - Modules.

You will probably have to wait a few months until you see these upcoming features in the new system.

If you plan to migrate your forum from Nabble1 to Nabble2, you must know that:
 - Ratings have been removed since they are commonly misused and affects user ego;
 - If you don't have an account in the new system, you will have to register again (accounts from the new system won't work on Nabble2)
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Justin Kelly
hey hugo

re custom sub-domains
- can i use my own domain instead
-- ie. http://myforum.mydomain.com as well ( ie. posterous style) ?

cheers

justin
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Hugo <Nabble>
Hi Justin, the answer is yes. This will be part of the custom domain implementation.
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Justin Kelly
prefect!!

thanks for the clarification - can't wait for this to be released

cheers

justin
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

RjOllos
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Two things I really miss from Nabble1:

 * The quickjump to my favorite forums.
 * The Breadcrumb navigation so that I can quickly get back to the main Nabble page.

In Nabble2, if I am inside a forum, I don't see any way to either jump to another one of my favorite forums, or navigate back to the main page.  Once I am at the main page, I can select `My Starred Items` and get to forums that I have starred, but if I am inside a forum, I don't see a way to jump to directly to one of my starred forums.
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Vladas
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What is the difference in rights (or status) between:
1) People: Members on the main menu of a forum;
2) Options: Users: Who are Members?;
3) Options: Users: Current Subscribers.
How should I set and what to tell members of private mailing list about their status?
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Vladas
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Perhaps both the Members should mean and display the same thing. Dainius Kaupaitis found the snag: while adding &filter=members to the URL of People (Members) — all the members are shown there, too. Screenshots and explanation here:
http://vaizdai.palubinskas.lt/Nabble-membership-tp912128p912128.html
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Hugo <Nabble>
We redesigned the "People" page and this should work fine from now on (the problem was related to cache). Please take a look and let me know if you have issues.
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Vladas
Oh, very informative — many thanks!
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

Vladas
I am still not sure, the meaning of terms are not clear for me.

1) Subscriber — by email, not necessary registered on the Web?

2) Registered user — on that Web forum, not necessary by email?

3) Member of the forum — both email and WWW? One or few of members are also full-rights administrators. And registered users (2) sometimes may also appear online (logged in the webforum).

There are screenshots.
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Re: Differences between Nabble1 and Nabble2

ted.dunning
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Did Nabble2 break followups going back to the source?  Several Apache projects are reporting
that messages posted on Nabble are not being sent to the original mailing lists.  This is a serious
issue since it causes projects to appear non-responsive without any redress.

Here is a sample:

On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:49 AM, sebb wrote:

> I've been seeing a lot of moderation messages for JMeter user mailing
> list recently, which I rejected, asking the user to subscribe.
>
> I could not understand why there seemed to be replies to messages that
> had not been seen on the JMeter user list, but it now appears that the
> conversation "Random variables in a test script  by  sprozzy" has
> taken place entirely within Nabble [1]
>
> There is no record of the Nabble threads on our mail archives [2], nor
> within Markmail. I imagine most other mail archives are the same.
>
> What should be done about this (if anything)?
>
> [1] http://jmeter.512774.n5.nabble.com/JMeter-User-f512775.html
> [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jmeter-user/201009.mbox/browser
>

I'm experiencing the same issue.  A user on stackoverflow.com was reporting that they were getting ignored on our lists and that the project had bad support.  I dug in and it seems several nabble posted emails were never delivered and I certainly haven't seen moderation requests for any of them -- and I do occasionally see and approve nabble posts that hit moderation.

This month alone all of the following have no trace in our archives:


Oct 13, 2010

 - Custom classpath
  by kicolobo
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/Custom-classpath-tp2993807p2993807.html

 - @WebService without @Stateless
  by typhoon
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/WebService-without-Stateless-tp2993404p2993404.html

Oct 12, 2010

 - Using OpenEJB to test EJB 2.1 beans
  by David P
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/Using-OpenEJB-to-test-EJB-2-1-beans-tp2990041p2990041.html

 - HttpServletRequest in webservice
  by typhoon
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/HttpServletRequest-in-webservice-tp2969409p2969409.html

Oct 07, 2010

 - DI Overriding @EJB in ejb-jar.xml
  by MarcusDidius
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/DI-Overriding-EJB-in-ejb-jar-xml-tp2967090p2967090.html

Oct 06, 2010

 - How to configure single-threaded JMS queue listener (MDB)
  by grigory
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/How-to-configure-single-threaded-JMS-queue-listener-MDB-tp2965656p2965656.html

Oct 05, 2010

 - TransactionManager not found
  by Dick Moore
  http://openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/TransactionManager-not-found-tp2955623p2955623.html


User list archive:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openejb-users/201010.mbox/browser


If I had to guess, I'd say this started in May.  A very large percent of our list traffic comes from Nabble.  In May our list traffic, which was steadily inclining over years, dropped to half and has stayed there [1].  It hasn't been this low since 2007.  Meanwhile our google analytics are still showing increased traffic.

Hoping to get some Message-IDs from them.