DELETED Contents in Private Forum when Member Leaves

[Pedro]

I've done that for you. Please, see at your advanced naml editor.

[JBWolverine]

"The must have received a copy of his deleted posts. Could you talk to him and ask for this?"

The individuals that deleted their NABBLE accounts (and their messages) were not responsive to follow-up contact. I am unable to obtain the original messages from them.

I have read the numerous REPLYs to this subject and think I understand how to edit the controls to prevent problems in the future.  

However, one of my original questions was never answered--  are the messages actually physically deleted from NABBLE when those two people deleted their Nabble accounts?  (I find that I am still able to search for text in their messages and get partial results back.. but the full text is marked "Deleted").

Thanks for your help

"JBWolverine"  

[JBWolverine]

Harvey--

A lot in your post rings true for me too.  The two individuals that deleted their Nabble accounts (and messages) had difficulty in abiding by the "house rules" of the forum and therefore made the forum hard to administer.  When their messages were deleted, the topics / threads became hard to follow.

However, because slanderous behavior could lead to legal problems, moderation is a requirement for the private forum.  

A public forum may be wide open to any comments a person (under an alias) might want to make, but a private forum implies there is a restriction for entry/acceptance and that places additional responsibility on the administrator to conduct the private forum within legal boundaries.

At least that is how I feel I must approach the problem.  (And why more control is needed by forum administrators)

--JB

[JBWolverine]

Pedro-- I have followed your edit instructions that you supplied to Marc Martin and came up with the same identical error message he experienced.  (see two messages earlier in this thread)

Your write-up does not explain how to resolve this error message problem (i.e. you fixed the error on his forum).

I would appreciate your help to remove or disable the code:

        <n.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.remove_account_path/]"><t>Remove Your Account</t></link>
            <hint><t>Remove your account and all your posts from <t.subject><n.root_node.subject/></t.subject>.</t></hint>
        </n.profile_option>

Micromem private forum:   http://micromem.3594288.n2.nabble.com/ 

Thank you

--JBWolverine  (administrator)

[JBWolverine]

Could someone help me with this "Deleted Contents in Private Forum when Member Leaves" problem sooner than later?  

I have one member on our forum that sometimes gets a little belligerent in the evening and the next step will be to either suspend his access or expel him from forum.  

Either way, he may decide to quit NABBLE and delete all of his messages-- which would break up the discussion on the threads that were okay when alcohol was not involved.

Thank you

--JBWolverine

[Coleen_Astalos]

It's in this same thread, just further up:  http://support.nabble.com/DELETED-Contents-in-Private-Forum-when-Member-Leaves-tp7586633p7586697.html 

Coleen

[JBWolverine]

Thanks, Coleen, but I have followed the suggested edit of the code, only to get an error message after the changes.  (This is identical to what was experienced by another person).

My message posted just prior to the one you responded to (i.e. 3 messages earlier) reports this editing problem.  I need help on getting this done.
 
--JBWolverine

[Marc Martin]

Yes, I had that error too, and had to get some intervention from Nabble staff for it to be fixed (no idea what they did, but they did fix it)

[Harvey]

Maybe  I am stating the obvious (or something that wont work) but this worked for me. I did override and pasted this in.

Good luck man it's LIBERATING when you can stop living in fear of your most destructive members!

 <override_macro name="profile_options">
    <n.put_in_head.>
        <style type="text/css">
            table.profile {
                border-collapse:collapse;
                width:100%;
                margin-top:.5em;
            }
            table.profile td {
                padding:.7em .3em;
            }
            table.profile td.title-row {
                background: transparent;
                padding:.2em .4em;
                border-bottom-width:2px;
                border-bottom-style:solid;
                font-weight:bold;
            }
        </style>
    </n.put_in_head.>
    <table class="profile">
        <n.profile_table_header.>
            My Settings
        </n.profile_table_header.>
 
        <n.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.edit_profile_path/]">Edit Personal Information</a></link>
            <hint>Change your registered email address and password.</hint>
        </n.profile_option>
 
        <n.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.edit_signature_path/]">Edit Your Signature</a></link>
            <hint>Change the signature text that is displayed at the bottom of your posts.</hint>
        </n.profile_option>
 
        <n.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.change_avatar_path/]">Change Your Picture</a></link>
            <hint>Change or remove your avatar image.</hint>
        </n.profile_option>
 
        <n.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.advanced_settings_path/]">Advanced Settings</a></link>
            <hint>Change viewing preferences and your alert settings (when posting a message).</hint>
        </n.profile_option>
    </table>
</override_macro> 

[Coleen_Astalos]

Mine looks pretty much like Harvey's,  Maybe if you copy/paste the error you're getting that might tell us something.
Coleen

[JBWolverine]

I just tried it again.   I appreciate the help.  Thanks!  --JB

Please notice that I went through each line of code and compared it to the one shown above as an example.  The differences have been made into BOLD TEXT,  (Namely, the term "Account Settings"/"My Settings" and the "< t >" and "< / t > " tags  (without the embedded spaces) in each of the profile_option table entries.


The only line I deleted was the last entry of the table from the original code:          

<n.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.remove_account_path/]"><t>Remove Your Account</t></link>
            <hint><t>Remove your account and all your posts from <t.subject><n.root_node.subject/></t.subject>.</t></hint>
        </n.profile_option>


Below is the error message generated from my override code:

  Error: macro or method for 'put_in_head' not found in [basic, nabble, ad] stack = [basic, nabble, ad]
 in put_in_head(custom_tweak:profile_options:2) - <n.put_in_head.>
 in (custom_tweak:profile_options:1) - <override_macro name="profile_options">


Below is the modified code that I generated (but cancelled due to the error).  Note: I have replaced the leading "less than" sign of the tags with an "X" to allow the full code to be displayed in this message.

profile_options

Xoverride_macro name="profile_options">
    Xn.put_in_head.>
        Xstyle type="text/css">
            table.profile {
                border-collapse:collapse;
                width:100%;
                margin-top:.5em;
            }
            table.profile td {
                padding:.7em .3em;
            }
            table.profile td.title-row {
                background: transparent;
                padding:.2em .4em;
                border-bottom-width:2px;
                border-bottom-style:solid;
                font-weight:bold;
            }
        X/style>
    X/n.put_in_head.>
    Xtable class="profile">
        Xn.profile_table_header.>
            <t>Account Settings</t>
        X/n.profile_table_header.>

        Xn.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.edit_profile_path/]"><t>Edit Personal Information</t></link>
            <hint><t>Change your registered email address, password, and your user name.</t></hint>
        X/n.profile_option>

        Xn.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.edit_signature_path/]"><t>Edit Your Signature</t></link>
            <hint><t>Change the signature text that is displayed at the bottom of your posts.</t></hint>
        X/n.profile_option>

        Xn.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.change_avatar_path/]"><t>Change Your Picture</t></link>
            <hint><t>Change or remove your avatar image.</t></hint>
        X/n.profile_option>

        Xn.profile_option>
            <link><a href="[n.visitor.advanced_settings_path/]"><t>Advanced Settings</t></link>
            <hint><t>Change viewing preferences and other settings.</t></hint>
        X/n.profile_option>

    X/table>
X/override_macro>

[Pedro]

How do you edit your macros?
If you search for it and see the message The source code below doesn't have navigation links because no usage has been compiled yet. Navigation links depend on how and where the macro is used, so first you may try finding all usages of "Macro Name".  , please, try to refresh the page or click at "try finding all usages" and enter in the macro again.
See if you can edit properly now.

[JBWolverine]

Okay-- I have attempted to modify the macro code and failed.  I need help!

Now the forum situation is starting to get really bad with the a member with the second highest number of posts deleting his messages after a day or two.   Talk about putting holes into the dialog!



#1  I need to remove the DELETE MESSAGE functionality for all members (except Administrators).   (This would apply to both the people active on the forum and people quitting the forum).

#2  I would like to remove the "CONTENTS DELETED  The author has deleted this message" text inserted into the forum's messages and allow the original text to be displayed.

What is it going to cost to get this done?

Thank you

--JBWolverine

[Harvey]

All good ideas.

(via mobile)

On Jan 8, 2014 2:36 PM, "JBWolverine [via Nabble Support]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Okay-- I have attempted to modify the macro code and failed.  I need help!

Now the forum situation is starting to get really bad with the a member with the second highest number of posts deleting his messages after a day or two.   Talk about putting holes into the dialog!



#1  I need to remove the DELETE MESSAGE functionality for all members (except Administrators).   (This would apply to both the people active on the forum and people quitting the forum).

#2  I would like to remove the "CONTENTS DELETED  The author has deleted this message" text inserted into the forum's messages and allow the original text to be displayed.

What is going to cost to get this done?

Thank you

--JBWolverine

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[Marc Martin]

On January  8, "Harvey [via Nabble Support]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> All good ideas.

I guess there is a philosophical issue here about whether the original poster should be allowed
to remove their own posts without administrator approval?  I know that I can delete my own
posts on a Facebook group without anyone's approval, but I have to do it one post at a time.

That said, my Nabble groups do have that  custom code that prevents people from deleting all of their
posts with a single click.  But I think I had to get someone at Nabble to do this for me, because
I got an error message when I tried to it myself.

Marc

[JBWolverine]

Marc-

I agree with you about Facebook (being able to delete your own content), but for our forum, a deletion of a message sometimes puts large holes in a dialog, if you are trying to follow it from an earlier point.

It reduces the value of the forum for new members joining it or for members who have not accessed it in a while. In essence, they cannot get fully up to speed.

As for deleting messages on our forum, I want that left to the Administrator only.  

--JB